Hedaya 2.140 Annotated

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Wednesday, October 12, 2016

Debait: Clinton vs Trump: Calling Out the Worst Lies

Second Presidential Debait Bones To Pick I call it a Debait 'cuz it was a parallel press conference, not a forensic debate. It was really a Trump baiting session, but Trump stood up and fought back in excellent form for the most part. I have bones to pick  with both sides.

    In the interest of time I selected a few important issues to dispute, highlighted them in the transcript and will pick them out of sequence with just enough context to convey the full meaning of the quotes. Superscripts in the quotes are linked to my commentary which follows.

And he never apologized for the racist1 lie that President Obama was not born in the United States of America.2 He owes the president an apology and he owes our country an apology and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and his words.

Raddatz: We go to Gorbah Hameed for a question for both candidates.

Hamed: Hi. There are 3.3 million Muslims in the United States and I'm one of them. You’ve mentioned working with Muslim nations. But with Islamophobia3 on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences4 of being labelled as a threat to the country after the election is over?

Raddatz: Mr. Trump, you’re first.

Trump: You are right about Islamophobia and that's a shame.5 But one thing we have to do is, we have to make sure that, because there is a problem. I mean, whether we like it or not and we can be politically correct6, but whether we like it or not, there is a problem. And we have to be sure that Muslims come in and report when they see something7 going on. When they see hatred8 going on, they have to report it9. As the example in San Bernardino. Many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people. Horribly wounded, they will never be the same. Muslims have to report the problems when they see them. And, you know, there is always a reason for everything. If they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country. Because you look at Orlando and you look at San Bernardino and you look at the World Trade Center. Go outside and you look at Paris, look at that horrible thing. These are radical10 Islamic terrorists and she won't even mention the word and nor will President Obama. He won't use the term radical Islamic terrorist, no. To solve a problem you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least, say the name. She won't say the name and President Obama won't say the name. But the name is there. It's radical Islamic terror11. And before you solve it, you have to say the name.

Raddatz: Secretary Clinton.

Clinton: Thank you for asking your question and I’ve heard this question from a lot of Muslim Americans across our country. Because unfortunately there has been a lot of very divise, dark things said about Muslims12. And even someone like Captain Khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country in the United States Army has been subject to attack by Donald13. I want to say just a couple of things. First: We’ve had Muslims in America since George Washington. And we’ve had many successful Muslims. We just lost a particularly well-known one with Muhammad Ali. My vision of America is an America where everyone has a place, if you are willing to work hard, do your part and you contribute to the community. That's what America is. That's what we want America to be for our children and our grandchildren. It's also very short-sighted and even dangerous to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric that Donald has about Muslims14. We need American Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our front lawns15. I’ve worked with a lot of Muslim groups around America. I’ve met with a lot of them and I’ve heard how important it is for them to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country. Part of our homeland security. And that's what I want to see. It's also important, I intend to defeat ISIS16,to do so in a coalition with majority Muslim nations. Right now, a lot of those nations are hearing what Donald says and wondering why should we cooperate17 with the Americans and this is a gift to ISIS and the terrorists. Violent jihadist terrorists. We are not at war with Islam18 and it is a mistake, and it plays into the hands of the terrorists, to act as though we are. So I want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else.


Raddatz: Thank you, secretary Clinton. Mr. Trump, in December you said this: ‘Donald J. Trump is calling if are a total and complete shut down of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. We have no choice. We have no choice.’ Your running mate said the Muslim ban is no longer your position. Is that correct and if it is, was it a mistake to have a religious test19?

Trump: First of all, Captain Khan is an American hero and if I were president at that time he would be alive today because, unlike her who voted for the war without knowing what she was doing, I would not have had our people in Iraq. Iraq was a disaster. So he would have been alive today. The Muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into an extreme vetting from certain areas of the world. Hillary Clinton wants to allow --

Raddatz: Why did it morph into that. No answer the question. Would you please explain whether or not the Muslim ban still stands?

Trump: It is called extreme vetting. We are going to areas like Syria where they are coming in by the tens of thousands because of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wants wants to allow a 550% increase over Obama. People are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are, where they are from, what their feelings about our country is and she wants 550% more. This is going to be the great Trojan horse of all time. We have enough problems in this country. I believe in building safe zone20, I believe in having other people pay for them, as an example the [Arabian] Gulf states who are not carrying their weight but they have nothing but money and take care of people. But I don't want to have, with all the problems this country has and all of the problems you see going on, hundreds of thousands of people come in from Syria where we know nothing about them. We know nothing about their values and we know nothing about their love for our country21.

Raddatz: Secretary Clinton, let me ask you about that. You have asked for an increase from 10 to 65,000 Syrian refugees. We know you want tougher vetting. That's not a perfect system. So why take the risk of having those refugees come into the country?

Clinton: First of all, I will not let anyone into our country that I think poses a risk to us22. But there are a lot of refugees, women and children, think of that picture we all saw of that 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he’d been bombed by the Russian and Syrian air forces. There are children suffering in this catastrophic war, largely, I believe because of Russian aggression23. And we need to do our part. We, by no means, are carrying anywhere near the load that Europe and others are. But we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, our intelligence experts and others. But it is important for us as a policy not to say, as Donald has said, we’re going to ban people based on a religion. How do you that24? We are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. How do we do what he has advocated without causing great distress within our own country25? Are we going to have religious tests when people fly into our country and how do we expect to be able to implement those?26 So I thought that what he said was extremely unwise and even dangerous and indeed you can look at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites and what Donald Trump says about Muslims is used to recruit fighters. Because they want to create a war between us. And the final thing I say, this is the 10th or 12th time he denied being for the war in Iraq. We have it on tape, the entire press corps has looked at it, it’s been debunked but it never stops him from saying whatever he wants to say. Go to Hillaryclinton.com.

Raddatz: Thank you Mr. Trump. I want to move on. This next question comes from the public through the bipartisan open debate coalition’s online forum where Americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. This question involves WikiLeaks’ release of purported excerpts of Secretary Clinton’s paid speeches speeches, which she has refused to release. In one line in particular, in which you Secretary Clinton purportedly say, ‘You need both a public and private position on certain issues.’ So, two from Virginia asks: ‘is it okay for politicians to be two-faced? Is it acceptable for a politician to have have a private stance on issues?’ Secretary Clinton? Two minutes.

Clinton: Right. As I recall, that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln27 after having seen the wonderful Steven Spielberg movie called Lincoln. It was a master class watching president Lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. It was principled and it was strategic and I was making the point that it is hard, sometimes, to get the congress to do what you want to do. And you have to keep working at it and yes, president Lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people, he used other arguments. That was a great, I thought, a great display of presidential leadership. But, you know, let's talk about what's really going on here, Martha because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that the Kremlin, meaning Putin and the Russian government, are directing the attacks, the hacking on American accounts to influence our election. And WikiLeaks is part of that as are other sites where the Russians hack information, we don't even know if it's accurate information and then they put it out. We have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election28, and believe, they’re not doing it to get me elected. They are doing it to try to influence the election for Donald Trump. Now, maybe because he praised Putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what Putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow. I don’t know the reasons, but we deserve answers, and should demand that Donald release all of his tax returns so that people can see what are the entanglements and the financial relationships--



Raddatz: We’re going to move on to Syria. Both of you have mentioned that.

Trump: But she said a lot of things that were false. I think we should --29

Raddatz: Mr. Trump, we will go on. Mr. Trump, we are going to move on. The heart breaking video of a 5-year-old Syrian boy named Omran sitting in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an airstrike in Aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors of the war in Syria, with 136 million views on Facebook alone. But there are much worse images coming out of Aleppo every day now where in the past few weeks alone 400 have been killed, at least 100 of them children. Just days ago, the State Department called for a war crimes investigation of the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad and of its ally, Russia, for their bombardment of Aleppo. So this next question comes from social media, through Facebook. Diane from Pennsylvania asks If you were president, what would you do about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo? Isn’t is a lot like wasn't it like the Holocaust when the U.S. waited too long before we helped? Secretary Clinton, we will begin with your two minutes.30

Clinton: The situation in Syria is catastrophic and everyday that goes by, we see the results of the regime, by Assad in partnership with the Iranians on the ground and the Russians in the air, bombarding places in particular aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of people, probably about 250,000 people still left. And there is a determined effort by the Russian Air Force to destroy Aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the Syrian rebels who are really holding out against the Assad regime. Russia hasn't paid any attention to ISIS. They are interested in keeping Assad in power.31 So I, when I was secretary of state advocated, and I advocate today a no-fly32 and safe zones33. We need some leverage with the Russians because they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is leverage over them. And we have to work more closely with our partners and allies on the ground. But I want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and aggressiveness of Russia. Russia has decided it is all in in Syria, and they’ve also decided who they want to see become President of the United States too and it's not me. I stood up to Russia; I’ve taken on Putin and others and I would do that as president. I think wherever we can cooperate with Russia, that's fine and I did, as Secretary of State, that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons, it’s how we got the sanctions on Iran that put a lid on the nuclear weapons program without firing a single shot. So I would go with more leverage than we have now. But I support the efforts to investigate for crimes, war crimes, committed by the Syrians and the Russians and try to hold them accountable.

Raddatz: Thank you Secretary Clinton. Mr. Trump.

Trump: First of all, she was there as Secretary of State with the so-called line in the sand.

Clinton: No I wasn't, I was gone. I hate to interrupt you. At some point we need to get the facts out.

Trump: You were still in contact with the White House. And perhaps sadly, Obama probably still listened to you. I don't think he would listen to you very much anymore. Obama draws the line in the sand. It was laughed at all over the world what happened. Now, with that being said, she talks tough against Russia, but our nuclear program has fallen way behind and they have gone wild with their nuclear program. Not good. Our government shouldn’t have allowed that to happen. Russia is new in terms of nuclear and we are old and tired and exhausted in terms of nuclear. A very bad thing.

Now, she talks tough. She talks really tough against Putin and against Assad. She talks in favor of the rebels. She doesn't even know who the rebels are34. You know, every time we take rebels whether it's in Iraq or anywhere else, we’re arming people. And you know what happens? They end up being worse than the people. Look at what she did in Libya with Qaddafi. Qaddafi is out. It's a mess. And by the way, ISIS has a good chunk of their oil. I'm sure you’ve probably have heard that. It was a disaster. The fact is almost everything she has done has been a mistake and it’s been a disaster. But if you look at Russia, just take a look at Russia and look at what they did this week, and I agree she wasn't there, but possibly she’s consulted.
We sign a peace treaty and everyone’s all excited, but what Russia did with Assad and by the way with Iran who you made very powerful with the dumbest deal perhaps I have seen in the history of making, with the $150 billion and with the $1.7 billion in cash, which is enough cash to fill up this room, but look at that deal. Iran and Russia are against us. So she wants to fight. She wants to fight for rebels. There’s one problem. You don’t even know who the rebels are. So what’s the purpose?35

Raddatz: Mr. Trump, your two minutes is up.

Trump: I don't like Assad at all, but Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS and they have lined up because of weak foreign policy.

Raddatz: Mr. Trump, let me repeat the question. If you were president, what would you do about Syria36 and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo, and I want to remind you what your running mate said. He said provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength and that if Russia continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the Syrian government forces of Assad, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the Assad regime.

Trump: Okay. He and I haven't spoken, and I disagree.

Raddatz: You disagree with your running mate?

Trump: I disagree. Right now, Syria is fighting ISIS. We have people that want to fight both at the same time. But Syria is no longer Syria. Syria is Russia and it’s Iran who she made strong and Kerry and Obama made into a powerful nation and a rich nation, very quickly, very, very quickly. I believe we have to get ISIS. We have to worry about ISIS before we can get too much more involved. She had a chance to do something with Syria, they had a chance, and that was the line.

Raddatz: What are do you think will happen if Aleppo falls?

Trump: Aleppo is a disaster, humanitarian wise.

Raddatz: What will happen if it falls?

Trump: I think that it basically has fallen, okay? It basically has fallen. Let me tell you something: you take a look at Mosul. The biggest problem I have with the stupidity of our foreign policy. We have Mosul, they think a lot of the ISIS leaders are in Mosul. So we have announcements out of Washington and coming out Iraq. We will be attacking Mosul in three weeks or four weeks. So all of these bad leaders from ISIS are leaving Mosul. Why can't they do it quietly? We can’t they do the attack and make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made inform the American public that we have knocked out the leaders; we’ve have a tremendous success. People leave. Why do they have to say we are going to be attacking Mosul within the next four to six weeks, which is what they’re saying. How stupid is our country?37

Raddatz: There are sometimes reasons the military does that. Psychological warfare.

Trump: I can't think of any.

Raddatz: It might be to get civilians out.

Trump: I can't think of any. I have 200 generals and admirals who endorsed me. I have 21 congressional Medal of Honor recipients who endorse me. We talk about it all the time. They understand. Why can't they do something secretively where they go in and knock out the leadership. Why would these people stay there? I’ve been reading there for weeks about Mosul...
Raddatz: Tell me what your strategy is it.

Trump: That it’s the harbor between Raqqa and Mosul, this is why where they think the ISIS leaders are. Why would they be staying...they are not staying there anymore. They are gone. Because everybody is talking about how Iraq which is us with our leadership goes into fight Mosul. With the 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. General George Patton and General Douglas MacArthur are spinning in their grave at the stupidity of what we are doing in the Middle East.

Raddatz: I’m going to go to Secretary Clinton, you want Assad to go, you advocated arming rebels, but it looks like that may be too late for Aleppo. You talk about diplomatic efforts, those that failed, ceasefires have failed. Would you introduce the threat of U.S. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the Assad regime to back up diplomacy?

Clinton: I would not use American ground forces in Syria. I think that would be a very serious mistake. I don't think American troops should be holding territory38 which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. I don't think that is a smart strategy. I do think the use of special forces, which we’re using, the use of enablers and trainers in Iraq, which has had positive effects, are very much in our interests. So I do support what is happening.

Raddatz: What would you do different than than President Obama is doing?

Trump: Everything.

Clinton: Martha, I hope that by the time I am president that we will have pushed ISIS out of Iraq. I do think that there is a good chance that we can take Mosul. And you know, Donald said he knows more about ISIS than the generals. No, he doesn't. There are a lot of very important planning going on and some of it is to signal to the Sunnis in the are,a as well as Kurdish Peshmerga fighters that we all need to be in this. And that takes a lot of planning and preparation. I would go after Baghdadi . I would specifically target Baghdadi. Because I think our targeting of Al Qaeda leaders, and I was involved in a lot of those operations, highly classified ones, made a difference. I think that could help. I would consider arming the Kurds. The kurds have been our best partners in Syria, as well as Iraq. And I know there’s a lot of concern about that in some circles, but they should have the equipment they need so that Kurdish and Arab fighters on the ground are the principal way we take Raqqa after pushing ISIS out of Iraq.

Trump: You know that’s funny. She went over a minute over and you don't stop her. When I go one second over --

Raddatz: You had many answers.

Trump: It's very interesting



racist

    Barack Hussein Obama may be a Mulatto, but his race is irrelevant.  Criticizing and questioning his eligibility and his policies are personal, not racial.   Shouting "racist" is a favorite LibTurd tactic for shutting down debate; it must be rejected.
No apology is due from Trump, as he explained, any apology is due from Clinton, whose campaign created the "birther" movement.

Not Born In America?

    According to his publisher, he was born in Kenya.  Snopes has published the image of the blurb so that you can see it and evaluate it for yourself. Where did that birth place claim originate if not with Obama?  If it is untrue, why would he allow it to be published?  The image that follows was clipped from this pdf file on the White House Web site.  It is presented as the President's "long form" "Certificate of Live birth". If it is authentic, why does it not include the embossed seal of the Health Department which is found on genuine birth certificates issued by Hawaii?  I resampled this 100% and sharpened it with Irfanview. I experimented with color corrections, but the embossed seal simply is not present.


This is the purported short form first released by the White House. Note that there is no embossed seal on it. This image has been resampled and sharpened.

Islamophobia

    Phobia denotes an irrational fear. After the attacks in Paris, Brussels, San Bernardino, Orlando, New York and New Jersey, fear of Islam and Muslims is common sense, not irrational but well founded."Islamophobia" is one of the buzzwords lused by disciples of Saul Alinsky to shut down debate.

Consequences

    Islamic identification should bear consequences: distrust, aversion, expulsion and exclusion. Without exception, all of the perpetrators of Islamic terror attacks are Muslims. Can you get a clue? "I will cast terror", "Allah cast terror", "to strike terror", "to terrify thereby", "You are more of a terror" and "I have been made victorious with terror": what the Hell part of that do you not comprehend?   And Allah awards Brownie Points for steps taken to injure or enrage us.

    Every Muslim is obligated to engage in terrorism. The believers will eventually do it. Get your head out of the sand and demand that the government impose consequences on potential Muslim terrorists.   No Muslims: no terrorism.

right about Islamophobia

    With all due disrespect to Mr. Trump, that is a prime example of disgusting Islamopandering, unworthy of a candidate for President.  The questioner was wrong in propounding the question and Trump was wrong to take the bait.

we can be politically correct

    And you are in that answer! Abandonment of PC is long overdue!

Muslims report

    Only an ignorant fool, which Trump is, expects Muslims to fink on terrorists! Finking on a brother constitutes apostasy, which bears the death penalty. Debi Brand did the research and explained the details here: read it and get a clue.

Hatred

    Allah hates sinners. Muslims are obligated to hate what Allah hates. Its Wala wal Bara: 'Love and hate for the Sake of Allah". Read the disgusting details here and curse Islam.

radical

    Radical means to the root. The root of Islamic terrorism is the Qur'an. Click through and get a clue:
3:151, 8:12,39,57,60,65,67, 9:5,29,38, 39,111,120,123, 33:26,27, 47:4,49:15, 59:2,13, 61:10-13; Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331 & 4.52.220

    There is no radical or extreme Islam. There is no moderate or anodyne Islam. It's Islam, Stupid!!! Abandon PC: quit prefixing adjectives to Islam & Muslims.

It's Islam, Stupid!

    It is not radical. It is not extreme. It is not a product of distortion, perversion or hijacking: the deity of Islam commands it. The Profit of Islam exemplified it. Get the your head out of your arse and read the damnable details!!! Get a clue!

said about Muslims

    Trump said "we have a Muslim problem", "they hate us" and called for a ban on admission of Muslims. He called for surveillance of Muslim neighborhoods and mosques.  Dr. Carson said that we should not elect a Muslim President.  Those statements are common sense: light, not darkness and dividing the predators from their prey is common sense.

Muslim problem

   In the last year, 63 people were killed by Muslims in mass murder attacks and 96 were injured.  No problem, Hillary?

they hate us

    'Cuz we ain't Muslims. We "went astray"; we are "the worst of living creatures". Allah, the Angels and men curse us; which men would that be? Muslims?!

Ban Mualims

    If Muslims were banned in a timely manner, Bobby Kennedy might have died of natural causes, The 14 killed at Fort Hood, the three killed at the Boston Marathon, the 4 killed at Chattanooga, the  14 killed at San Bernardino and the 49 killed at Orlando would still be alive. Get a God Blessed clue for Chrissake!!!

surveillance

    Who commits Islamic terror attacks? Where do they live and plot their schemes???  Obamination shut down an investigation that could have prevented the San Bernardino Massacre. Who can get a clue? Certainly not the Bloody Witch of Benghazi!

Muslim President

    You elected a Muslim President in 2008 & 2012. You damned fools!!! Look what he has done. The Mid East is in flames. Europe is invaded by Muslim conquerers and gimmigrants. Terrorism is rampant. He lies about the identity and character of the enemy. He condemns critics of Islam. He mocks Christianity. He can recite the Adhan in perfectly accented Arabic.  Kiss my arse!

    Islam is incompatible with representative self government: only Allah has the right to be worshiped. So much for freedom of religion! Only

    Only Allah and his Messenger have the rule to decide and govern; its Allah's law, not man made law arrived at by debate and consensus.

    Only Muslims are permitted to have authority. Infidels are not permitted to have authority even over other infidels. You can not even testify in an Islamic court!

    I disrespectfully direct deniers, doubters & dissenters to the relevant provisions of "The Reliance Of The Traveller".  It has been scrubbed from the web so I can't link to it so I will quote it.[Emphasis added for clarity.]

O24.2

Legal testimony is only acceptable from a witness who:

(a) is free;

(b) is fully legally responsible (mukallaf, def: c8.1) (O: as testimony is not accepted from a child or insane person, even when the child's testimony regards injuries among children that occurred at play);

(c) is able to speak;

(d) it mentally awake;

(e) is religious (O: meaning upright (o24.4) (A: and Muslim), for Allah Most High says,

"Let those of rectitude among you testify" (Koran 65:2),

and unbelief is the vilest form of corruption, as goes without saying);

M13.2

The necessary conditions for a person to have custody of a child are:

(a) uprightness (def: o24.4) (O: a corrupt person may not be a guardian, because child care is a position of authority, and the corrupt are unqualified for it. Mawardi and Ruyani hold that outward uprightness (def: m3.3(f) ) is sufficient unless there is open wrongdoing. If the corruptness of a child's mother consists of her not performing the prayer (salat), she has no right to custody of the child, who might grow up to be like her, ending up in the same vile condition of not praying, for keeping another's company has its effects);

(b) sanity (O: since a mother uninterruptedly insane has no right to custody, though if her insanity is slight, such as a single day per year, her right to custody is not vitiated by it);

(c) and if the child is Muslim, it is a necessary condition that the person with custody be a Muslim

(O: because it is a position of authority, and a non-Muslim has no right to authority and hence no right to raise a Muslim. If a non-Muslim were given charge of the custody and upbringing of the child, the child might acquire the character traits of unbelief (kufr) ).

O25.3: The Qualifications of a Caliph

 (Nawawi:) among the qualifications of the caliph are that he be:

(a) Muslim (H: so that he may see to the best interests of Islam and the Muslims (K: it being invalid to appoint a non-Muslims (K: it being invalid to appoint a non-Muslim (kafir) to authority, even to rule non-Muslim.)

Captain Khan attacked?

    If her lips are moving, the Bloody Witch of Benghazi is lying! Trump did not attack Captain Khan, he called Khan a hero. He gave a sharp reply to Khan's father, who used the Bronze Star and Purple Heart as shields to hide behind while calumniating Trump.  Trump should have called her out!

defeat ISIS

    Islamic State, Boko Haram, Hamas, Hizbollah and the rest of the bloody alphabet soup are not the enemy to be defeated. Muslims are the enemy. Islam is the damnable doctrine that makes them inimical. Allah commands Muslims: all adult male Muslims of sound mind and body who are not indebted  or enslaved to wage Jihad.  When a sufficient number have reported to the battle, the rest are excused. But when we retaliate, the whole Ummah is obligated, not just able bodied adult males.

We need to defeat Muslims and that requires destroying their faith! [Page 60.] War against Muslims must be waged on the kinetic and ideological planes.

Muslim Cooperation

    Camel Excrement!!! Muslims are our enemies, neither allies nor partners! Allah explicitly forbids equal and inferior relationships with Infidels; Muslims must be superior!!! This is a get yer head out of yer arse moment!!!

war with Muslims

    Muslims are the enemy. Islam is the set of doctrines that makes them inimical. Muslims have a choice; go to war now and Allah's celestial orgy after they die or go to Hell when they die. The alternatives are described in  Surah An-Naba'.  When a Muslim meets Allah, his sins will be weighed against his righteous good deeds.  The swing of the balance determines his destiny. Only participation in Jihad guarantees forgiveness! Jihad is the Muslim's get out of Hell Free Card!

    Muslims are waging war against them and we need to retaliate. We need to wipe them off the face of the earth and we need to get their fifth column out of Dar al-Harb.

religious test

    The Constitution forbids religious tests for holding federal office. It does not forbid consideration of religion in selecting immigrants.

    There is nothing illegal, immoral or unconstitutional about excluding persons who adhere to a violent or subversive belief system. The creed of Islam is called Aquida,[Tirmidhi] it lists what Muslims must believe to be in good standing with Allah.


Click each of those pages to enlarge them, read them and get a clue: Islam is violent!!! Muslims are at war against us and there is no place for them here!!!
Maududi: Jihad In Islam, Page 10-11

  Islam  wishes  to  destroy  all  states  and  governments anywhere  on  the  face  of  the  earth  which  are  opposed  to
the  ideology  and programme  of  Islam  regardless  of  the  country  or  the  Nation  which  rules  it.  The
purpose  of  Islam  is  to  set  up  a  state  on  the  basis  of  its  own  ideology  and programme, regardless of which nation assumes the role of the standard-bearer of Islam   or   the   rule   of   which   nation   is   undermined   in   the   process   of   the establishment of an ideological Islamic State.t Islam requires the earth—not just a portion, but the whole planet—not because the  sovereignty over the earth should be wrested from one nation or several nations and vested in one particu lar  nation,  but  because  the  entire  mankind  should  benefit  from  the  ideology  and welfare  programme  or  what  would  be  truer  to  say  from  ‘Islam’  which  is  the programme  of  well-being  for  all  humanity.  Towards  this  end,   Islam  wishes  to press  into  service  all  forces  which  can  bring  about  a  revolution  and  a  composite term for the use of all these forces is ‘Jihad’. To change the outlook of the people and  initiate a  mental revolution among them through speech or writing  is a  form of ‘Jihad’. To alter the old tyrannical social system and establish a new just order of  life  by  the  power  of  sword  is  also  ‘Jihad’  and  to  expend  goods  and  exert physically for this cause is ‘Jihad’ too.

Ibn Khaldun: Muquaddiman pg. 308
In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the
universalism of the (Muslim) mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to
Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are
united in (Islam), so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to
both of them 408 at the same time.

safe zones

    Where there are Muslims, there is no safety. Europe is not safe in the presence of gimmigrants  & rapefugees, neither is America. No mater where you send those displaced Muslims, some of them will attack, rob, rape and murder others.  You can not stop others from  launching artillery & rocket attacks on so called safe zones.

    The Arab states do not want those 'refugees' 'cuz they know that those 'refugees' are mainly rebels & rebel sympathizers who would soon undermine their own regimes.

Refugee Values

    If they are Muslims, they value admission to Jannah, earned by waging war against us.  If they are not Christians, they are almost certainly rebels or rebel sympathizers who will eventually subvert or revolt against the existing order wherever they go.

poses a risk to us

    Every Muslim is obligated to wage war against us; to punish us for not being Muslims. So long as they believe in Allah, their presence among us carries a real and proximate threat of terrorism.

    With the Islamic State and al-Qaeda inciting Muslims to shoot, stab, run over and poison us, their presence here can not be tolerated. We absolutely must expel them and keep them out. We must not bring any more Muslims!

cause of suffering

    All of the suffering results from the rebellion by Muslims trying to seize the throne.  If they were not attacking the regime, the regime would not be retaliating. Its a power struggle, Stupid! Both sides are evil, we have no dog in this fight, there is no positive outcome and we must get and stay out of it.

Ban Muslims by:

    Amend the immigration act of 1990 to make persons who believe in a deity who requires them to injure, terrorize, enslave, plunder or kill us excludable. Then enforce it.

causing great  distress

    The accursed abomination caused great distress to more than 3000 innocent people. Excluding 20 accursed Muslims including the "magnificent nineteen", would have caused them well deserved distress and saved 3000 innocent lives. If you object to that, go to Hell and be damned!

Religious Tests: Implementation

    Many Muslim countries stamp religious affiliation on identity cards. Make visa applicants state their religion on their visa application. Demand that they show their identity cards. If they claim to be Christian, ask them to recite their creed. Ask them to display a baptismal certificate.

    Test visa applicants by greeting them with "As-Salam-u-Alaikum". If they respond to it, exclude them. Tear a page out of a Koran, toss it on the floor, stomp it and tear it up into the circular file. If the applicant shows signs of offense, exclude him.

Blame Abe Lincoln?

    Thanks to Wikileaks, we have access to the original statement. The words are hers, not lincolns. She recuits Lincoln's portrayal in a movie to support her conclusion.
"You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that's not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed, and he called one of my favorite predecessors, Secretary Seward, who had been the governor and senator from New York, ran against Lincoln for president, and he told Seward, I need your help to get this done. And Seward called some of his lobbyist friends who knew how to make a deal, and they just kept going at it. I mean, politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position. And finally, I think -- I believe in evidence-based decision making. I want to know what the facts are. I mean, it's like when you guys go into some kind of a deal, you know, are you going to do that development or not, are you going to do that renovation or not, you know, you look at the numbers. You try to figure out what's going to work and what's not going to work." [Clinton Speech For National Multi-Housing Council, 4/24/13]

Foreign Influence

    How about Obamination's attempt to influence Israel's election to oust Netanyahu?   Evidently it's a one way street. How about all the foreign 'leaders' denouncing Trump? Are they trying to get you elected?

Moderator bias

    She denies Trump an opportunity for rebuttal of lies; standard operating procedure. That is a debait, not a debate.

biased straw man

    Raddatz wasted valuable time setting up her straw man premise. No mention of the Christians slaughtered or driven from their homes. No mention of the rape victims enslaved. She is only concerned about Muslim suffering as if it is somehow the responsibility of our President to solve all the world's problems.

    Children are being hurt 'cuz combatants do not separate themselves from the populations they hold captive; they use the civilians as human shields. Dictatorial regimes use draconian force to kill the rebels, causing collateral damage. 

    What did President Reagan do to stop the shelling of Hama that killed 10,000 Ikhwan supporters?  What could he do, kill them himself? He sent the Marines to save Arafat's Bacon, how did that turn out?  Its a shame that LibTards can't learn from history.

keeping Assad in Power

    Russia wants to keep arms payments flowing and maintain a warm water port. Iran wants to establish hegemony and a new caliphate. You want to depose Assad and replace him with violent rebels who will expand the Islamic State and use Syria as a base for attacks on Israel and Jordan. How is your position superior?

no fly zones

    What happens when you shoot down a Russian jet over Aleppo? Do you really want to provoke the bear? Do you really want to draw another red line in the sand only to be forced to abandon it?  Talk is cheap, lives are not.

rebels: Muslims!

    Who does not know who they are? Believing Muslims as described in Qur'an Verses 8.1-5. 9.111 & 49.15. Al-Qaeda & Islamic State affiliates. Our enemies trained and armed by Obamination on her watch. You should be condemning & cursing them and calling for their extinction.

The purpose

    Global conquest. That's what Islam is all about. Obamination! Obama is a damned Muslims!  He and his Secretaries Of State want the enemy to win their war against us 'cuz he is one of them. Clinton & Kerry think the Muslims will do their wet work, then they can take over from the Muslims. Obama knows better: the triumphant Muslims will be invincible.

Do something!

    Quit arming, funding & training the enemy and start bombing them effectively. Wherever their leaders convene, bomb them. Strafe their funeral processions. Strafe their convoys. Moab their training camps and assembly areas. Every time they suffer a loss, mock them: "Where was Allah? Why did he let you suffer a defeat? Where is the victory he promised?".

how stupid is our country?

    Stupid enough to elect and re-elect a damned Muslim who fights to lose. Obamination wants the enemy to win so he ties the hads of our troops with suicidal rules of engagement and telegraphs his strategy to the enemy.

holding territory

    That damned fool did not learn the lesson of Vietnam: seize and hold territory. Once is enough. She ceded several great cities of Iraq to the enemy. Look at the results! Hit and run worked in the War Of Revolution 'cuz we had the territory already. It did not work in Vietnam and it will not work in the Levant 'cuz the enemy has the territory.  She is too stupid to be President.

Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Open Public Debate of Ideas Protects Against Religious Intolerance

Open Public Debate of Ideas Protects Against Religious Intolerance A/C.3/68/L.48 Combating intolerance, negative stereotyping,stigmatization, discrimination, incitement to violence and violence against persons, based on religion or belief continues by telling another lie.
Recognizes that the open public debate of ideas, as well as interfaith and
intercultural dialogue, at the local, national and international levels can be among
the best protections against religious intolerance and can play a positive role in
strengthening democracy and combating religious hatred, and expresses its
conviction that a continuing dialogue on these issues can help to overcome existing
misperceptions;

open public debate of ideas

    Open public debate of the doctrines and practices of Islam is anathema to the authors, & sponsors of the draft resolution.  They seek to make all criticism and exposure of Islam a criminal offense. They condemn Fitna and The Innocence of Muslims which introduce some of the most important facts which should be debated.

    When the rules of public debate dictate that "...terrorism cannot and should not be associated with any
religion, nationality, civilization or ethnic group.", then the debate is closed & one sided, not open.

protection against intolerance

    Exactly how would debate & dialog protect against the effects of belief in and attempts to implement these demonic doctrines?
  • Choosing a religion other than Islam will never be accepted 3:85
  • Fight Pagans until only Allah is worshiped 8:39
  • Fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and extorted 9:29
  • Bring them to Islam with chains on their necks 3:110, Sahih Bukhari 6.60.80 
  • Acts of terrorism are deeds of righteousness 9:120
How would debate & dialog protect against them if we they are excluded from debate and dialog?  We can only be protected by eliminating Islam from the world, which the UN would condemn as 'profiling' & 'discrimination'. .

existing misperceptions

    Such as?
  • "Islam is a great religion of peace."
  • "Islam is an equally valid pathway to God."
  • "Islam has been hijacked by extremists."

Monday, December 19, 2011

The hypocrisy of Congressional Bigotry

The hypocrisy of Congressional Bigotry
Fatwa on Islam brought this video to my attention. I had read a little about the controversy but had not delved deeply into it. I can't let this slide by without a blast of the torch. We find Christopher S. Murphy on the floor of the House, wasting precious time.

Last week, the giant home improvement chain, Lowe's decided to pull their ads from a new show on The Learning Channel called All American Muslim. ...American Muslim families of Lebanese descent in Dearborn, Michigan and highlights how their faith affects their lives and their families.  The show is aptly titled because it shows Muslim families to be exactly what they are in this situation and millions like them around the nation; they're Americans.  They face problems just like the rest of us, the only difference is they worship in a different church

    Now Lowe's pulled these ads because one right wing anti-Muslim group in Florida show hides the "true agenda" of Islam which, according to this group, is to destroy America. 

    Now this kind of anti-Muslim bigotry isn't new, it seems like every month we are being warned by a new radical group about the creep of Shari'ah law or a peaceful Mosque is being run out of a community or a radical pastor is burning the Qur'an on television.  But it is one thing when a fringe group or a radical unhinged pastor is doing it, it is quite another when a Fortune 100 company is endorsing this nonsense.

    Now Lowe's defends itself by saying that they are pulling these ads because some of their customers have "strong social and political views on this topic".  Well, congratulations to Lowe's for acknowledging that there are some really bigoted people in the world.  That doesn't mean  that Lowe's or any other company should acquiesce to this kind of behavior.  For instance, there are, unfortunately, a  lot of people out there who still hold racist views about African-Americans, but I don't think that means Lowe's is going to be pulling its ads from television shows featuring African-Americans.   Lowe's also says that they are sorry for walking into a "hotly contested debate".  Well, what debate are they talking about?  yes, we face threats from a fringe sect of radical anti-American Islamists but there is no debate that the millions of patriotic, peace loving Muslims who live in this country have no connection to that movement and do nothing except strengthen the fabric of our nation. 

    And maybe you think that this is just a minor side show and Congress shouldn't be talking about it on this floor; I submit to you that you're dead wrong.  This is a major American company rubber stamping basic foundational bigotry against a major American religious group

    This nation was founded on the premise of religious freedom and this body should never remain silent when a group of people is marginalized just because they worship a different god.  And though its certainly got more important things to worry about like fixing the economy,  its traditionally  been in bad economic times that this kind of social marginalization has been at its worst  because people don't speak up against it. 

    Now further, this kind of bias, it endangers our national security. Thadius  McDunn*, the President's deputy national security adviser, recently said: "al-Qaeda's core recruiting argument is that the West is at war with Islam".  With this action, extremists can say "Look, we're already being run out of their neighborhoods, now we're being run off of their television sets.". 

    This kind of anti-Muslim sentiment doesn't just endanger our nation's soul, it endangers our national security.  and so, here's my message for the folks at Lowe's who made this decision, and, frankly anybody out there of sound mind who is considering getting behind this growing anti-Muslim bias: you're better than this; you know that the history of this country and of this world never ever looks kindly on this kind of marginalization that you've endorsed with your actions.  And whether its agains Irish-Americans or Jewish-Americans or African-Americans,  the history books make sure that this kind of exclusionary politics becomes a stain on the reputation of anyone who takes part in it. 

    Today I am leading a group of members of Congress calling on Lowe's to reconsider their decision and listen, we do have a lot to fear from Islamic groups that seek to do harm to America, but we have nothing to fear from a tv program called All American Muslim and we have nothing to fear from the tens of millions of peace loving and patriotic Muslim Americans who are just like those who are portrayed in that show.  This is America and we have never been perfect at living up to our founding ideals, we've gotten pretty good at calling out bigotry when we see it and stamping it out before its mark becomes indelible; this can be one of those moments. 

* I typed what I heard, rewound the video and played that segment back. I checked Wikipedia and found: Denis McDonough. Not being a cat, I can safely indulge curiosity. I ran the quote through Google and found that most of the serps went to articles about the present controversy.  This one is the Congressman's letter.  The second link I tried turned out to be the 109 page transcript of the House Security hearing. This turned up on  page 2.

Just this past Sunday, for instance, Denis McDonough, the deputy national security adviser to President Obama, made a major speech on radicalization, stating that, quote, "Al Qaida and its adherents have increasingly turned to another troubling tactic, attempting to recruit and radicalize people to terrorism here in the United States. "For a long time, many in the U.S. thought that we were immune from this threat. That was false hope and false comfort. This threat is real and it is serious." "Al Qaida does this for the express purpose of trying to convince Muslim Americans to reject their country and attack their fellow Americans,"


Another quote, from the first Muslim elected to Congress,  turned up on page 12.

Mr. McDonough noted that Al Qaida's core recruiting argument is that the West is at war with Islam.


    Representative Ellison also quoted President Obama

"Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism. It is an important part of promoting peace."


    There is a major problem in the recruit and radicalize meme: al-Qaeda and other so called "extremists groups" are normative Islam. Muslims have already been recruited.  Radicalized is a shibboleth designed to reinforce the false moderate || radical dichotomy.  Islam is not moderate and there is no moderate Islam.  There are Muslims who are ignorant of their "religious" obligations and Muslims who ignore their obligations, but there are no moderate Muslims.
For the detestable details of that Islamic obligation, turn to Reliance of the Traveller, Book O9.1.  Pay particular attention to the first and penultimate paragraphs of that section.  [See also: http://islamic-world.net/youth/jihad_articles.htm]

    Islam's normal state is war, periods of peace are the exception; for the duration of a state of weakness. Outside of incapacity, failure to attack disbelievers is a sin. If you do not comprehend that, follow this link, read the page, then scroll up to the proceeding page and read it; Jihad is undertaken on Islamic initiative and must be continuous. 

    The West is not at war against Islam but should be because Islam is at war against us.  If you do not comprehend this, open the Qur'an to 9:29.  if reality still does not sink in, follow up with Tafsir Ibn Kathir.

    Representative Ellison and President Obama are damned liars: Islam promotes war, it does not promote peace.  I direct doubters and dissenters to the links in the previous paragraph and the link two paragraphs up, to Reliance of the Traveller.  Islamic law says that the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians.  Allah said "fight them".  Moe said that he was 'ordered to fight the people".  Al-Mughira told a Persian general: "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:-- 'Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master.'"[Sahih Bukhari 4.53.386]

    The Dey of Algiers explained to Adams & Jefferson by what right the Barbary Pirates attacked our shipping.

[the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War]


    From the Islamic viewpoint, peace is the condition appertaining after Islam has conquered the entire world, until then there is war.  Islam promotes peace by conquering us.  If that ain't the Acme of arrogance, what is?

worship in a different church

    Muslims are not our fellow believers in Jehovah & his son. The difference between us and Muslims is not analogous to the difference between Catholics and Baptists. Their deity commands them to participate in offensive warfare to conquer the entire world  Those Muslims who observe the five compulsory prayers curse us seventeen times every day, reminding Allah why he wants to burn us

right wing anti-Muslim

    That is argumentum Ad Hominem, a meritricious personal attack designed to denigrate one's opponent and distract attention from the merits of his facts & logic.  In the old French Parliament, the regime and its supporters sat on the right side, the populists sat on the left.  When they shout "right wing", they are labeling us authoritarians or fascists.  The popular connotation is Nazi.  But the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was allied with Hitler and raised two divisions of SS from Muslims in Bosnia. 

    The meme:  we are against Muslims, we must be bigots. What we oppose is Islam: propagation & implementation of Allah's imperatives to genocidal conquest through terrorism.  This is not about Arabs or Asians, we have no problem with Christian Arabs or Asians.  This is about an ideology which is the polar opposite of ours and denies our dignity and rights because we do not embrace it.

true agenda of Islam

    That phrase was used derisively, to dismiss, a priori, without evidence, the fact that Islam is a system of global conquest. If any doubt lingers, read Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331with particular attention to items 1 & 5.

anti-Muslim bigotry

    That phrase is another example of argumentum Ad Hominem, which dismisses, without facts & logic, informed, principled opposition to being murdered, our widows raped and our orphans sold into slavery. The academics, clergy, media personalities & elected officials who spew Ad Hominem against us should read and comprehend Noble Qur'an 9:111, 120 & 123; if they did, those who have any conscience would feel great shame.

radical group

    They attack us because they can not contest the facts we present.  Because they can not refute our facts and logic, they seek to denigrate  us in hopes or discrediting our arguments. Intelligent and open minded people can see through that tactic. Exactly what is "radical" about SIOA, UAC & Act! For America?

creep of Shari'ah

    There have been 50 trial and appellate cases involving Shari'ah in American courts.    Shari'ah allows a Muslim to divorce his wife by repeating "I divorce you." three times. Shari'ah prohibits granting custody of a Muslim child to its Christian mother. A mother who remarries loses custody of her children. Christians are disqualified from giving testimony.

Mosque is being run out

    Exactly where has an existing Mosque been run out of a community?  Objections have been raised to the Mosque proposed for Ground Zero and construction has been opposed in other areas, with good reason. 

radical pastor is burning the Qur'an

    Exactly what is radical about Rev. Terry Jones?  He opposes an ideology which demands that he be slaughtered. Is there something wrong with that?  He held a four hour trial in which the Qur'an was convicted of inciting violence and subsequently burned.  Burning the American flag is protected free speech but burning a book which commands perpetual genocidal war against us is "bigotry", "hate speech" & "inciting violence".  Kindly kiss my big, deformed, ulcerated smelly foot, Congressman!

radical unhinged pastor

    Notice how the Congressman makes repeated use of argument against the man because he can not contest the facts.  Argumentum Ad Hominem is a constant theme in his screed.

Fortune 100 company

    There he goes again; a "radical unhinged pastor" has no credibility, but  a "Fortune 100 company" has plenty of credibility so its speech must be coerced.

endorsing this nonsense

    Pulling their advertisement does not prove the assertion that Lowe's opposes Islam.  It is probable that their primary motivation is financial, related to diminishing ROI as the show's audience shrank. 

nonsense

   Resistance to the invading and occupying fifth column of an existential enemy is not nonsense. Islam caused the untimely deaths of 270*106 people  over the last 1388 years. As recently as ten years ago it murdered 3000 on our soil.  Arrogant dismissal of that  proximate & continuing threat is the real nonsense.

strong views = bigoted

    Bigots are uninformed and closed minded. Opponents of Islam are informed by Islam's canon of scripture, tradition, exegesis & jurisprudence and by information shared by scholars who have studied those sources. The real bigots are those who accuse us of bigotry.

acquiesce

    Terrible bigotry it is to acquiesce to customer complaints over advertising on a tv show which covers the enemy fifth column with the false mantle of religion, but how sensible & righteous to acquiesce to an arrogant demand letter from a Congressman.  Does anyone else recognize hypocrisy when they see it? Did these Congressmen send demand letters in opposition to Muslim boycotts of advertisers on Mike Savage & Rush Limbaugh's radio shows?  If not, they should sit down and shut up.

what debate

    The debate about Islam: "great religion of peace" or genocidal crime syndicate disguised as a religion.  Six years ago, a "Soldier of Allah", holding the rank of Major in the U.S. Army, shot and killed 13 soldiers as an act of worship in Allah's name.  Political Correctness labels his act as "workplace violence".  Kindly take PC to Hell with you.

fringe sect of radical Islamists

       Are these the words of fringe radicals:

  • 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
  • O9.9

    The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49) ).

  • 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
  • O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad

    The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

    "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),...

  • 8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allâh desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

  • 9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success . 
  • 9:120. It was not becoming of the people of Al-Madinah and the bedouins of the neighbourhood to remain behind Allâh's Messenger (Muhammad  when fighting in Allâh's Cause) and (it was not becoming of them) to prefer their own lives to his life. That is because they suffer neither thirst nor fatigue, nor hunger in the Cause of Allâh, nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness. Surely, Allâh wastes not the reward of the Muhsinûn
  • 9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2). 
  • Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." 

Is Allah, the deity of Islam, a "fringe radical"?  Is Moe, who founded and exemplified Islam, a "fringe radical"?  Explain to me, with valid, verifiable facts, that what Allah said and Moe did ain't normative Islam.  Explain to me exactly how the genocidal conquest of India was anything but normative Islam.  Explain to me how the conquest of Arabia, Syria, South East Europe and North Africa was anything other than normative Islam.  Explain to me how the Assyrian & Armenian genocides were anything other than normative Islam.  Explain to me how the attacks on New York City, London, Madrid, Beslan & Mumbai were anything other than normative Islam.  And prove it!!!

    Damned fools and liars will assert "mis-translation", "mis-interpretation" & "cherry picking"~"out of context".  Save your voice. Parallel translations, an Arab/English dictionary and scholarly exegesis expose your malignant malarkey. 

To all of which, the arrogant anal orifices will respond, chanting in unison: "That's all Sunni, inauthentic; we don't believe in it.". Ok, try Al-Mizan, a Shi'ia Tafsir. The translation of Surah Al-Anfal & At-taubah is not available, but 2:190 nicely covers the same territory.

Although Reliance of the Traveller is Shafi'ite, it is most widely accepted as authentic Islamic Law. let the doubters & dissenters resort to the Maliki & Hanifi fiqh.

But, of course, Moe was kind and gentle, the best and greatest of men; a perfect role model for emulation. If you are stupid enough to believe that, reading his biography probably won't help, but I'll link it anyway.

    For permanent reference and easier reading, go to Amazon and buy a hard copy, they have the books except the Maliki  Risala.  Note that the Hedaya is Volume II, Volume 1 lacks the information on jihad.

http://www.florida-family.org/take_action_form.php?message=51
Here is the message Florida Family wants supporters to send to advertisers.

All-American Muslim is propaganda. Please do not support it with advertising.

The Learning Channel's new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law.

The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to the liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.

One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American.  No ifs and or buts about it."  This scene would appear to be damage control for the Dearborn Police who have arrested numerous Christians including several former Muslims for peacefully preaching Christianity.

Many situations were profiled in the show from a Muslim tolerant perspective while avoiding the perspective that would have created Muslim conflict thereby contradicting The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America.

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.

I encourage you to stop supporting this show with your advertising dollars.

Is the show propaganda designed to improve Islam's image?  What other purpose could it have?  Are there reality shows about Amish and Mormons? Why not?  What is so interesting about the lives of  ordinary Muslims that we should want to look through their living room windows?

    Would the show be less objectionable if it also portrayed members of Revolution Muslim, showing them preaching hate and violence on the sidewalks of New York?  Have any segments been taped showing RM or other "radicals"?  Are there any segments on American Muslims parading photographs of Khomeini?  If not, why not?

    For the other side's POV, with some hyperbole, more quotes & links and css that makes it difficult to read, visit The American Muslim:  http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/all-american-muslim.

    Murphy's screed is an archetype of Hillary Clinton's implementation of HRC 16/18: combating "defamation of Islam" * "negative stereotyping", "hate speech" & "incitement to violence"  by denouncing anyone who criticizes Islam. Contradiction is the best counter to lies, but against relevant, verifiable facts and clear logic, it needs more than argumentum Ad Hominem, which is all Murphy has to offer.

    I urge and exhort all lovers of liberty and freedom of expression to join in demanding an immediate and permanent halt to implementation of the Istanbul Process. Sign this petition to send emails to your Representative & Senators. Please share and promote the petition as widely as possible.